tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19092890.post5834619020506987187..comments2024-03-28T17:41:43.970+02:00Comments on Image Sensors World: Sony Announces 48MP 0.8um Pixel SensorVladimir Koifmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01800020176563544699noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19092890.post-82549820019938054042019-01-11T13:17:08.268+02:002019-01-11T13:17:08.268+02:00Is there any clarity issue in image because of the...Is there any clarity issue in image because of the small pixel size (0.8 um) ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19092890.post-17607667413107070262018-07-26T08:19:38.907+03:002018-07-26T08:19:38.907+03:00Please re-post it. Can be some sort of glitch, ind...Please re-post it. Can be some sort of glitch, indeed.Vladimir Koifmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01800020176563544699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19092890.post-19512503335638967402018-07-26T00:13:34.155+03:002018-07-26T00:13:34.155+03:00I am not sure why my comment is not visible. I am ...I am not sure why my comment is not visible. I am guessing it's more of a site (blog) glitch, than anything else. TheLastOraclehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14326238261633744089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19092890.post-60694564300620290092018-07-25T03:23:43.730+03:002018-07-25T03:23:43.730+03:00I think they use demosaicking for this conversion....I think they use demosaicking for this conversion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19092890.post-53953673701853965642018-07-24T20:46:26.240+03:002018-07-24T20:46:26.240+03:00I bet they will be using some sort of spatial expo...I bet they will be using some sort of spatial exposure multiplexing with neighboring same color pixels in order to bump up the dynamic range. There are a lot of patents out on that and I think Sony owns quite a few of them (both natively theirs and purchased from others).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19092890.post-57383751412800735762018-07-24T19:05:40.759+03:002018-07-24T19:05:40.759+03:00Thank you for the information. Thank you for the information. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19092890.post-56305630090421817882018-07-24T18:08:37.277+03:002018-07-24T18:08:37.277+03:00How good does this "array conversion" wo...How good does this "array conversion" work (from 2x2 Bayer to classic Bayer)? I could imagine that this is quite tricky, especially in the edges of the image where there might be some color aberration from the lens. But I think there are other products with similar arrays already on the market, so there should be some experience?tentnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08497139857025987223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19092890.post-17439945568222678052018-07-24T10:59:12.396+03:002018-07-24T10:59:12.396+03:00with good ulenses and binning sensitivity should b...with good ulenses and binning sensitivity should be nearly the same as 1.6u pixel, shouldn't it?adihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15758761072546922563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19092890.post-5691776921525134012018-07-24T05:07:59.934+03:002018-07-24T05:07:59.934+03:00As for HDR, maybe they can control exposure time f...As for HDR, maybe they can control exposure time for each of the four pixels separately.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19092890.post-75810854765163636822018-07-24T02:32:44.429+03:002018-07-24T02:32:44.429+03:00I am wondering if this sensor support 4x sensitivi...I am wondering if this sensor support 4x sensitivity at low light conditions by binning 4 pixels and it support the option to increase full well capacity(FWC) by 4 times at high light conditions. if then, it works as if 1.6umx1.6um big pixel do.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02929647655855963164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19092890.post-16726033819664818392018-07-24T01:18:26.329+03:002018-07-24T01:18:26.329+03:00"MIPI C-PHY accomplishes this by departing fr..."MIPI C-PHY accomplishes this by departing from a conventional differential signaling technique on two-wire lanes and introducing three-phase symbol encoding of about 2.28 bits/symbol to transmit data symbols on three-wire lanes, or “trios”, where each trio includes an embedded clock. Three trios operating at 3.5 Gsym/s achieve a peak data rate of about 24 Gbps over a nine-wire interface."<br />Not clear if this is v1.0 or v1.2 from MIPI alliance website.<br /><br />IMX586 is running on C-PHY 3 lanes, 23.94Gbps so plenty fast.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19092890.post-34399063520146363832018-07-24T00:35:47.745+03:002018-07-24T00:35:47.745+03:00I agree with Vladimir, Sony's words just sound...I agree with Vladimir, Sony's words just sound like they are comparing 1.6um quad to a 0.8um pixel.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19092890.post-7589249466888421902018-07-24T00:33:17.837+03:002018-07-24T00:33:17.837+03:00And that's because the virtual small green is ...And that's because the virtual small green is an interpolation of 2 big greens and DTI of 0.8um pixel which makes up a quad 1.6um takes up twice as much space as DTI of a single 1.6um pixel thus reducing the PD node and sensitivity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19092890.post-85122022893254976392018-07-23T22:57:15.984+03:002018-07-23T22:57:15.984+03:00Sure, it improves the color fidelity and sensitivi...Sure, it improves the color fidelity and sensitivity with respect to a 0.8um pixel with the classical per-pixel Bayer pattern. However, if we compare it with 1.6um pixel made with the same process complexity (lightguides, DTI, same separation materials, etc.), the 1.6um pixel would have better color and sensitivity.Vladimir Koifmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01800020176563544699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19092890.post-67144597268035579642018-07-23T22:41:39.932+03:002018-07-23T22:41:39.932+03:00Does it say something about adjusting the binning ...Does it say something about adjusting the binning locally? I meant that I do not see it in the PR.Vladimir Koifmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01800020176563544699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19092890.post-69278940549627274842018-07-23T19:20:04.436+03:002018-07-23T19:20:04.436+03:00Four times greater dynamic range than previous pro...Four times greater dynamic range than previous products and real time output<br /><br />Original Sony exposure control technology and signal processing functionality are built into the image sensor, enabling real-time output and a superior dynamic range that is four times greater than conventional products. Even scenes with both bright and dark areas can be captured with minimal highlight blowout or loss of detail in shadows while viewing the image on the smartphone display.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04132954922762820169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19092890.post-29407856716694407362018-07-23T18:14:47.610+03:002018-07-23T18:14:47.610+03:00That is a lot of data that needs to be read out in...That is a lot of data that needs to be read out in 33 ms and surprised that the output configuration can support it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19092890.post-32591278258649834632018-07-23T18:06:05.688+03:002018-07-23T18:06:05.688+03:00I can't find it in the PR. Could you give a qu...I can't find it in the PR. Could you give a quote?Vladimir Koifmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01800020176563544699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19092890.post-69474159840658741712018-07-23T16:33:29.157+03:002018-07-23T16:33:29.157+03:00The release indicates that the device can adjust t...The release indicates that the device can adjust the binning locally for enhanced intrascene dynamic range. This will enable a significant improvement in HDR imaging.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04132954922762820169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19092890.post-73004181012422478462018-07-23T15:16:42.639+03:002018-07-23T15:16:42.639+03:00also this 4 macro-pixel for each RGB color should ...also this 4 macro-pixel for each RGB color should improve significantly the color accuracy since each pixel block from the same color "sees" twice less crosstalk from other different colors: can anyone comment on the improvement related to color accuracy of such 2x2 macro block of RGB pixel pattern?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19092890.post-8827188017690777612018-07-23T12:45:08.654+03:002018-07-23T12:45:08.654+03:00Looks like nice work and a significant jump ahead,...Looks like nice work and a significant jump ahead, again.Eric R Fossumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09740612324630105312noreply@blogger.com